I have been riding The H8 for almost two years and it's an awesome bike, but the Jumbo is a big step up. This bike takes off so quick, your front tire is stopped and all of a suden it's going 30mph spitting dirt and rocks before it grabs and you take off. The dule suspension works well, the color screen with app connect and turn by turn direction is a nice touch. So much torque and speed Philodo out did themselves. It compares to a certain $5000 bike at halve the price with more battery and motor.